J.Crew Lady Day Coat – 2011 vs 2010 sizing & quality

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Coat: J.Crew Lady Day sz 00P in “oasis green” (extra 30% off w/ MUSTHAVE) Clutch: H&M;  
Booties: Adrienne Vittadini  Tights: Target girls  Earmuffs: Burberry  Gloves: no brand from Mom

I know this is a belated “review” as it’s already 2012, but I just wanted to share some of my observations now that this coat is on final sale. Elle did a thorough review after the epic promo (or pricing error) during which these were available for an amazing price. She was so kind to sell me an extra in the color I’ve been eying all along – this beautiful, preppy, “oasis green.” 

I did a review and video on this coat in 2010, during which I picked up a 0P in olive (subsequently sold and replaced with cobblestone gray). 0P was the smallest size available that year. I was very excited to see a 00P available in 2011, but had my suspicions that sizing wouldn’t be that much smaller. Lo and behold…

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I laid the coats one on top of the other, and they were exactly the same measurements-wise. I didn’t expect much difference, but I also didn’t expect the two sizes to be identical in every aspect. Actually, unless my eyes were playing tricks on me, the 2010 0P might have even looked a smidge smaller than the 2010 00P.
I am disappointed because this is yet another sign of J.Crew’s vanity sizing. This lady day coat is one of the few, few items that fit me from this brand with no alterations necessary. Their pants, skirts, and other petite-sized offerings are still much too roomy. If I were a 0P in this coat last year and a 00P this year, does that mean other longtime J.Crew customers also had to go one size down?
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Measurements of 2011 00P / 2010 0P: 14.25″ across the shoulders, 36″ total length, 14.5″ across the waist, 22″ sleeve length, 19″ across the bottom, 17″ across the armpit.

The outer wool content is the same both years, but one notable difference is an obvious slip in interior quality. The 2010 cobblestone gray is beautifully lined with some double-cloth wool pieces on the inside, interior waistband, satin ribbon piping, and a small chest pocket. The 2011 has none of that, but I did note the welcome addition of a small chain for hanging. Perhaps such “shortcuts” in workmanship are a result of having to do more frequent and steeper discounts this year to keep up with competitor pricing.
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Another look at the green:

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Readers – What did you think of the sizing & quality of this year’s coats?

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88 Comments

  1. Alice wrote:

    I love your blog and the comparison between different version of J crew day coat, I’m quite curious that is there any change in the collar shape? I have the kind of feel that the collar they made right now looks larger and round at the tip
    Than the older version. What do you think?

    Posted 9.30.21 Reply
  2. Anonymous wrote:

    Dear Jean, you look great on this coat. I am in love with Talbots coat but they do not make it in 0P, only 2P smallest size. i am often wear PP in blouse and sweater, and can not go to store to check. i am 1,54m, 48kg so could you pls give me advice if I can wear this in 2P:
    http://www.talbots.com/online/browse/product_details.jsp?id=prdi31766&rootCategory;=cat70010&catId;=cat810041&sortKey;=Default&section;=Regular&conceptIdUnderSale;=cat70010.
    Thank you so much.

    Posted 11.24.13 Reply
  3. Simone wrote:

    I have had the same problem with J. Crew's sizing. I used to fit nicely into a 0P pant before 2010. Once they changed their sizing, the 0P now falls off my butt. I can never find a 00P, and when I do, it's never on sale. J. Crew should either make the 00P more available or get rid of the vanity sizing.

    Posted 2.20.12 Reply
  4. Michelle wrote:

    Ugh! I hate, hate JCrew's vanity sizing. In 2002, I was 95lbs and was a size 00P or 0P. Now 12lbs heavier after I had a baby, I am still just size 0P. I mean…really????

    Posted 2.12.12 Reply
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    Posted 2.9.12 Reply
  6. Splendid coat, fantastic color, love all about it!! U styled it very good with the rest!:)
    kisses

    Jelena
    glamfabchameleon.blogspot.com

    Posted 1.31.12 Reply
  7. I love this dress in every way you have worn it!

    Posted 1.31.12 Reply
  8. Hi Jean, I came across your blog when I was looking for tips in Asian eye make ups. I really am enjoying your blog. Great job! I too bought a j.crew lady day coat during the sale this year. I got an purple eggplant color. I was really disappointed by the quality. The so called 94% wool felt so much crappier than my 2010 76% wool j.crew coat. I had to return it because i didn't think it's worth the money. I understand absolutely why you are questioning the company's production strategies. Thanks for sharing !

    Posted 1.28.12 Reply
  9. Vivien wrote:

    Hi Jean! Could you please recommend some tights? I tried H&M; and they're extremely fragile and too long (bunches up) for me (I'm 5'1"). I tried some other brands and could barely breath! I just bought a package from BR yesterday but haven't tried them yet. Which ones do you find are the best for sheer and opaque? Thanks – LOVE your blog 🙂

    Posted 1.27.12 Reply
  10. Anonymous wrote:

    The metro coat runs big, sorry! I'm 5'4" and 105 lbs. Got the 00 and I was swimming in it. I expect coats to be a bit big because i have very small shoulders, but this was even bigger than most other j.crew coats. I would order at least one size down, probably two sizes if you tend to be between sizes. FYI, it's also pretty thin and not too warm (in case you live somewhere really cold like I do — NYC).

    Posted 1.27.12 Reply
  11. 5foot2eyesofBlue wrote:

    A question for those that commented they have the metro coat – how does it fit? True to size, or is it also vanity sized? It is final sale, so I really want to get it right. Thanks for any help any of you can offer.

    Posted 1.26.12 Reply
  12. The green looks beautiful on you, Jean! Unfortunately, haven't had any experience with J. Crew coats but they look like they fit really nicely on petite frames. I think the petite sleeve lengths might be a bit too short for me. haha

    Posted 1.26.12 Reply
  13. Great Blog!! That was amazing. Your thought processing is wonderful. The way you tell the thing is awesome. You are really a master.
    Best Deals

    Posted 1.23.12 Reply
  14. Anonymous wrote:

    ooh now looking back I think your gloves are brown,are they brown or black?

    Summer

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  15. Anonymous wrote:

    I love the brown clutch/booties/tights with the black gloves mix "I always match gloves,boots,bags,scarves either all black or all brown" and all combined very well with the green coat,I never thought of wearing green with burberry "check pattern" accessories..I love the combination all together!

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  16. dagmara wrote:

    I bought the metro coat in the same color and I love wearing it. People stop me all the time to tell me how much they love the color. I prefer the Metro style on me.

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  17. Tang wrote:

    I would have never considered a green coat EVER, until I saw this one! Jean, I love your blog, but you're horrible for my wallet! 🙂

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  18. I love the colour of your coat, that colour is everywhere right now. I love your blog, I passed on the versatile blogger award to you 🙂

    http://whattheshoe.blogspot.com/

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  19. You look great in green! Love the coat!

    The Life After

    Posted 1.21.12 Reply
  20. Josie wrote:

    You look stunning! I don't really know much about J.Crew so I can't comment on it. But I do you know it suits you quite well.

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  21. Anonymous wrote:

    Jean –

    I was just introduced to your blog, which I love. Keep up the great work. I think you have great taste, which is a trait that cannot be learned! You must be born with it. 😛

    I don't think I am as slender as you, but I am shorter with smaller feet and maybe smaller hands.

    Anyway, my question to you is…what is your solution/suggestion for leather gloves for extra petite hands? I found a boutique just for gloves on Madison Avenue in NYC that sells a size 5.5 (it is the smallest size I have seen anywhere). It does fit when they are new, but after some use, it tends to stretch. I've looked for leather gloves for girls, but I find that leather gloves seem to be limited to the adults section. Have you come across any leather gloves for girls? If so, please share.

    Thanks!

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  22. I absolutely love that you did this review. I have noticed some of these differences in j.crew sizing. I normally wear a small in their sweaters and when I received two they swallowed me up so I had to go down to an xs. I love that you figured their little trick out 🙂

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  23. Wyfy wrote:

    I really want that coat in my life, but 1st, I'm living outside US, 2nd – it's too expensive for me :(((

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  24. Lisa wrote:

    Hi there – love the blog and your outfits! I wanted to let you know I found a blouse very similar to your black and white one from H&M; and Express – http://www.express.com/long-sleeve-mock-pocket-shirt-43118-721/control/page/5/show/3/index.pro?relatedItem=true&showBreadcrumb;=true#jsLink

    Just wanted to send that your way since it made me think of you! Happy Friday! 🙂

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  25. PixieLuv wrote:

    I have those same earmuffs and was wondering how you recommend cleaning them. I tore off the label by accident when I first got them but I think its mentioned dry cleaning but I'm not sure. Anyway, any suggestions will be great. Thanks!

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  26. Lien wrote:

    The earmuffs are absolutely darling on you! I've thought about purchasing a pair (my ears get so cold sometimes!) but I realized it was a little silly considering where I live.

    Posted 1.20.12 Reply
  27. R.L. wrote:

    What a huge disappointment in regards to the inner lining for the 2011 version. I have a 2010 lady day that I love but I now realize is a size too big for me. I was planning on selling and buying a 2011 00P, but for now I think I'll hang onto it and see if I can find a good tailor. Who knows what the 2012 00P will look like and how it'll fit.

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  28. Lynn wrote:

    Agree, the quality of their coats and clothes in general have gone down. I had a Jcrew Coat that I got in winter 2008 that lasted me through till this season. I got a Nello Gori black plain peacoat this season (on sale) and it's already getting worn down through half a season of a mild winter. Sad.

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  29. Debra wrote:

    Hi!! I'm petite too & love your blog!! I find your information here really helpful & so I posted about Extra Petite on my own fashion blog…stylewisebydebra.blogspot.com. I would love for you to visit. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with everyone.

    Blessings!!

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  30. shirley wrote:

    Most of my coats are from Jcrew petite since they fit me so perfectly. The quality and craftmanship are just great. I don't have much complaints. Though one thing I notice from Jcrew coat is that their lining is very weak. After a year of wearing, I started to see signs of wear and tear inside the lining already.

    How do you keep you lining intact? Any tips???

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  31. Anonymous wrote:

    Hi I'm in Australia and I have to say I HATE vanity sizing. I used to be a size 8 (I think that must be a US size 1 or 2?), and then after a few years I became a size 6 and then now I'm a size 4. A size 4 is like, maybe a US size 00. My dress size has been decreasing despite the fact that over the past few years I've gained so much weight that my old clothes are too small for me to wear. Yet I can't find clothes in the stores that fit me because the smallest clothes in the stores (that cater to adult women) are always a little too roomy. This year, I've noticed that the size 4 pants from my favourite store does not fit as well as last year's size 4 pants, they are cutting everything slightly bigger each year. Sooner or later, petites will be sized out of existence. The fashion industry is stupid. They acknowledge that larger models are needed to walk down their runways but they don't actually make clothes to fit real people, large or small (especially if you're short).

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  32. S~ wrote:

    After seeing how gorgeous the coat looked on you, I jumped at the chance to buy a Lady Day coat myself (since I was looking for a new, more work appropriate peacoat), but when I finally received it and tried it on, I felt the sizing was really weird on me! On me, it's really loose and kind of baggy on the upper half around the shoulders! I'll try it on a couple more times before deciding whether I should keep it, but I have to admit, I was pretty disappointed with the fit! 🙁
    But I love the green colour, and I was thinking of it too at first, but I ended up going for standard black! I'll do a blog post soon on my review of the coat!

    truthandbeautystyle.blogspot.com

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  33. Your style is flawless!

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  34. Erin Marie wrote:

    You are just beautiful in every way! I wish I looked good in everything like you do!

    Erin
    http://ewinmawie.blogspot.com/

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  35. Shortstack wrote:

    There's a J.Crew opening in Vancouver, maybe by spring or sooner. There's already a coming soon sign in the window of the space they're taking. They are set to open in West Edmonton Mall by summer 2012 too.

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  36. You look adorable as always. I tried remixing and counterfeiting your style but it just doesn't come as naturally to me. Did you ever have those "moments" when you looked at your outfit choices and seriously doubted your own fashion taste? Because I've been going through this uninspired dry phase that's messing up my head..LOl. I would really appreciate some fashion counseling!! <3

    Posted 1.19.12 Reply
  37. Shoppingisfun wrote:

    I love this coat on you! It looks like you could maybe have it taken in a bit, although coats are not supposed to be tight, so maybe not. Anyway, wow, what a great color!

    Posted 1.18.12 Reply
  38. Jamie wrote:

    This year I was ecstatic that J Crew actually came out with 00P. However I was sorely disappointed. It fit JUST as bad as last year's size 0P. Never again J CREW. They just have NO coats small enough for me. :'( They make me sick.
    Thanks for your review, this explains why. >_

    Posted 1.18.12 Reply

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